[OKGIS] MAPPS v. U.S.A.

Fri Feb 9 16:40:03 CST 2007

FYI...check out the link below...

Robert Stokes
GIS Administrator
Cherokee Nation GeoData Center
P.O. Box 948
Tahlequah, OK 74465
Office: 918-453-5625
Cell: 918-207-2798
Fax: 918-458-7647
robert-stokes at cherokee.org
www.cherokee.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Fitzgerald [mailto:ianfitzgerald at tdpud.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 3:14 PM
To: general_member at lists3.surveyssay.com
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MAPPS has turned to the courts.  In response a "Friend of the Court"
brief was filed on behalf of AAG, GISCI, GITA, UCGIS, and URISA.

Here is the link to the brief
http://www.gisci.org/Issues_News_Policy/MAPPSvUS_Suit.htm

Ian Fitzgerald, GISP

GIS Coordinator 
Truckee Donner PUD

Oversight Committee Member
GISCI
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe McCollum [mailto:jmccollum at fs.fed.us] 
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 10:44 AM
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Some of you may have seen this link already:

http://spatialnews.geocomm.com/dailynews/2007/feb/09/news5.html

Did DOL decide against MAPPS?  It looks like MAPPS has turned to the
courts
if DOL didn't see it their way.

Joe McCollum
Information Technology Specialist
Forest Inventory and Analysis
Knoxville, TN  37919

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GISjobs.com has a survey that thousands of GIS professionals responded
to. The stats might help build a good argument to support everyone's
comments on the diversity of GIS.

http://www.gisjobs.com/survey/

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Behen [mailto:mbehen at cityofpalmdale.org]
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:59 AM
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Well said.

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From: Lutgen, Tom [mailto:TLutgen at ci.burbank.ca.us]
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:49 AM
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Laughter, sadness, anger, laughter again.

While reading many of the responses to this topic, I noticed some of my
own
reactions:

Laughter - at the suggestion that the Engineering/Surveying is an
umbrella over the Geospatial Industry.  That is obviously upside down -
the MAPPS
group is a subset of the Geospatial Industry.

Sadness - at the thought that someone hit their head or something.  Or,
at least for the time wasted explaining reality to them.  It was
surprising to hear that they actually had lobbyists running around
spreading the idea.

Anger - after realizing they have actually convinced some lawmakers to
believe it. Quite a story about South Dakota limiting GIS work to
Licensed Surveyors.

Laughter again - at the thought of those same politicians scrambling to
find a licensed surveyor when they want to redraw their voter precinct
boundaries. Crazy.  Don't let DMV get wind of it or they may require an
additional license to operate the navigation system in your car.

I am in the Yes-Yes-No-No-Yes group.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Ann Stewart [mailto:mastewart at sunflower.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:37 AM
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Subject: [general_member] GITA High-Growth Grant Needs Your Input

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In response to GITA and AAGs work on the Department of Labor high-growth
grant to define the geospatial industry, several major concerns have
been raised by MAPPS (Management Association for Private Photogrammetric
Surveyors).

MAPPS has requested that DOL describe geospatial as a profession limited
to the discipline of Architecture-Engineering as defined by Federal
regulations rather than as a cross-cutting industry falling within the
fields of Architecture-Engineering, Information Technology, finance,
earth science, health care, and on and on as we grow into mainstream
technology.  MAPPS believes that our description of geospatial as an
industry broader than Architecture-Engineering will have harmful effects
on individual practitioners and professional firms in the areas of
Federal procurement, employment classification, professional liability,
university accreditation, and tax and accounting measures.

DOL proposes to respond to MAPPS with a rebranding from the current
Geospatial Technology Industry to the revised brand of Geographic
Information Sciences & Technology as well as a repositioning of the
geospatial community, removing the statement that it is an information
technology field of practice.

We believe that this rebranding would not best serve the needs of the
broad range of geospatial business efforts and practitioners served by
Department of Labor efforts.  We would very much appreciate receiving
your comments and reactions to the following:

1.Is there a geospatial industry?
2.Are there geospatial practitioners outside the realm of
Architecture-Engineering professions?
3.Should geospatial be restricted to the Architecture-Engineering
discipline?
4.Would you or your business experience any harmful effects from a
broader definition of geospatial as an industry?
5.Would you or your business experience any harmful effects from the
restricted definition of the geospatial industry?

We are currently preparing comments to DOL and would appreciate your
responses by Tuesday, July 18th.

Thanks for your thinking on this!

Bob Samborski, Executive Director, GITA
Mary Ann Stewart, GITA Project Manager for DOLs High-Growth Grant

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